Fred Smith Talks Turkey

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Fred Smith Talks Turkey

By James David
Dec. 31, 2006

Fred is talking turkey or should I say, according to his evolutionary beliefs, possible "sub turkey form"? What a great Christmas present for us all at U-K to read his article:

Doing My Part To Attack Christmas [NOT!]

Nice to see you back in the institution.

Everything Fred wrote about Christmas is true. This is one of the many worldly festivals, and it is for everyone who is 'of the world.'

There is a big difference between Fred's Christmas and mine.

Fred is 'of the world', an atheist come humanist and most probably "come realist" (then moving on to come naturist, because then he'd have nothing left to believe).

I am 'in the world' but not of it, do not have a Christmas Tree

and am bringing my children up without this icon.

Fred's children enjoyed Christmas but then I made sure mine did too, by giving. There is a big comparison with the presents my children receive and with the presents I had when I was a child.

We weren't as wealthy in those days and on unwrapping My step-father's present I found an empty box.

When I asked what kind of present this was?

He replied, "It's an action man deserter."

I bought my five year old son a set of golf clubs, complete with bag and three wheel trolley.

He started playing at four years old, when I took him to a local 'pitch and putt' course. Since then he's been such a keen golfer hitting the ball completely in line with the flag, even if the ball went only 20-30 yards.

He even beat me once, 3 shots to my 4. People are amazed when they see him, and I point out to them that he's Tigger Woods.

I could take Fred's article even further and point out in the Old Testament where the tree has popped up before:

Isaiah Ch:66 vs17.(King James version)

They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination and the mouse, shall be consumed together saith the LORD.

For me, a Christian is to take note of the second commandment. The Bible says it, so why not do it?:

Exodus Ch:20 vs4.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

It's as simple as that.

Here are the usual questions I have thrown at me.

1. Isn't a Christmas tree harmless in church?

It appears to be. A spiked drink is not harmless, but it is if one does not partake in it. Everyone always testifies of the Pope as a harmless old man, but he is against Jesus Christ and His written word. One cannot serve two masters.

2. Don't we have idols at home like statues and toys?

Alright, so if I did manage to get an action man when I was a young boy, wouldn't that be an idol? No, of course not.

Christians serve God who is not seen. A tree or a wooden cross is in the place of, or next to deity. God is jealous for His reputation and will not share his glory with another, even a dumb idol. Icons fix the peoples eyes away from what is the one true God.

3. Aren't I being a killjoy by not accepting Christmas trees?

I'm not a party pooper, I'm a party popper by giving gifts to my family. I have to accept like Daniel did, that while we are 'in the world' buried in tradition, we have a relationship with the living God. When one is an outcast in one's own country like Elijah was, we can remember what God said in 1Kings ch. 19 vs18:

"Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him."

4. Isn't it idols we have set up in the mind that we should be

keeping ourselves from?

Yes it is. This is a hidden sin that can be difficult to deal with. As a Christian discovers the battle for the mind and looks for ways to deal with temptation, this makes physical idols easier to deal with. It's difficult as it is for christians to stand against temptation.

When a tree is erected inside a church one wonders why this is difficult for people not to do. Have they bowed to the pressures of man to please the world rather than God? How much effort are they putting in on bringing down the idols of the mind?

The Israelites were always grumbling. There came a time when they rejected God and wanted to be led by a king just like the surrounding nations. A king they could see, of flesh and blood. A king who would rob them and do them harm. God told Samuel the prophet He will give them their desire, so He gave them Saul. As time went on, the Israelites rejected God until eventually, God hadn't spoken to them for around four hundred years up until Christ.

The nativity play does not match up with the Bible. Jesus was not born in a stable, there were no three kings and I don't think there were shepherds watching their flocks around this time of the year.

I put up with nativity plays because it is a worldly production and after all, it is half true. But for me to put up with the Christmas tree is totally unacceptable. I look in the Bible to see if it lines up with God's will and find it here:

Jeremiah Ch:10 unacceptable-4. (King James version)

Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Even Fred wrote about it as coming from heathen customs.

The one issue Fred did not get right in his article was when he liberally used the sticky label, "Christian." He put this label on anything he sought fit, even bringing politics into the arena. What is written in the Bible is written in the Bible. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world and whoever would follow Him, would forsake the things of the world. Especially it's gods and non gods.

I will give Fred a proper label to start putting on Christians, 'Bible Believers,' and I don't even mind being called 'Bible Bashers.' The reason for this is, before becoming a Christian, I moved in next door to a Christian named Basil. I called him a 'Bible Basher.' That was, until I accepted the call of God. Now I will gladly take up the name.

Happy new year.

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About the author: My name is James David and am forty something. Was born in a Roman Catholic nunnery, Sacred Heart Convent in Highgate, London. I now live on the outskirts of London, am married, have two children, and work in the medical profession on a private basis and with the government. I visit churches in the area by being an underground Christian, because of the persecution.

Email: louise.nel@btinternet.com

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